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Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Linux</span></a></span></p><p>Nice, that you have a federated messenger in the list!</p><p>Please add <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> a.k.a. <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>, too, which happens to be my preferred IM since ≈&nbsp;2014 (even it is much older, it exists since 1999!)</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://indieweb.social/@joinjabber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>joinjabber</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp_providers" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp_providers</span></a></span></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://freeradical.zone/@generalx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>generalx</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@jwz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jwz</span></a></span></p><p>There is still no first class client for Linux, such as <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a> on desktop or <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mobian</span></a> on mobile. Only for Google Android and Apple iOS which I do not fancy 🤷</p><p>As I already use <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> since ≈2014, before Signal has been released, there is no reason for me to change.</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> 2.1.0-1 will land in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a>&nbsp;13 <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/trixie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trixie</span></a> within the next hours.<br>You can already install it from Debian unstable.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rubdos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rubdos</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ts-new</span></a></span></p><p>I agree, that there is no server-side meta data protection on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>. But it compensates by</p><p>1. impede mass data surveillance, thanks to federation, and</p><p>2. making multiple accounts, incl. anonymous and burner accounts, very easy.</p><p>Note, that most <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> clients do default to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> E2EE "on" now. It took a long time, though.</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@gino" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gino</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.teckids.org/@nik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nik</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.mv2k.com/@memo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>memo</span></a></span></p><p>Nicht unbedingt besser als Matrix, nur anders bzw. mit anderen Nachteilen behaftet: <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a>.</p><p>Wenn man self-hosted, kann man auch eine Bridge zu Matrix haben (<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/slidge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>slidge</span></a> matridge), sodaß man keinen Extra-Client braucht. So kann ich <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> von <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> nutzen 🙂</p><p>Aber <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> unterstützt noch keine "spaces". Der Standard dazu ist noch ganz frisch und meines Wissens nirgends implementiert: <a href="https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.h</span><span class="invisible">tml</span></a></p><p>(Thanks to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pouet.pas.la/@nicoco" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nicoco</span></a></span> for both slidge and "XEP-0503: Server-side spaces"!)</p>
Daniel Gultsch<p>A recent security audit of <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Conversations_im" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations_im</span></a>¹ found that wildcard certificate handling didn’t fully comply with the spec.</p><p>Conversations was accepting *.a.example for c.b.a.example, even though wildcards are only meant to match a single label.</p><p>This issue has been fixed in version 2.18.0, now live on Google Play.</p><p>¹: <a href="https://conversations.im/2025_audit_conversations.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">conversations.im/2025_audit_co</span><span class="invisible">nversations.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a></p>
XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Community</p><p>XMPP <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Sprint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sprint</span></a> in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Berlin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Berlin</span></a> on 23rd - 25th May 2025! It is open to all interested.</p><p>More details: <a href="https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025-05_Berlin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025</span><span class="invisible">-05_Berlin</span></a></p><p>:xmpp: </p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interoperability</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rtc</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>standard</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.uno/@Madmonkey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Madmonkey</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://livellosegreto.it/@kenobit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kenobit</span></a></span></p><p>Sorry, if I misintpret your post, trying to understand Italian based on my mediocre Spanish 🙂</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> itself does not define <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>e2ee</span></a>, but almost all clients do support <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> encryption, which is more or less copied from Signal.</p><p>In addition, you can choose a trustworthy provider, such a <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/cooperative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cooperative</span></a> or club.</p><p>Maybe for that reasons, German <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/police" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>police</span></a> seems to believe (wrongly), that <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> (the traditional name of XMPP) were "the first pillar of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cybercrime</span></a>"!</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/UseJabberDoCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UseJabberDoCrime</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://c.im/@sbb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sbb</span></a></span></p><p>Yw!</p><p>Note, that when you have `apt-listchanges` on your <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a> (or derivative) machine, you get such information directly on uprade! 🙂</p><p>"drop mod_muc_restrict_pm and mod_vcard_muc (not needed with Prosody 13)"</p><p><a href="https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/prosody-modules/prosody-modules_0.0~hg20250402.f315edc39f3d+dfsg-1_changelog" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">metadata.ftp-master.debian.org</span><span class="invisible">/changelogs//main/p/prosody-modules/prosody-modules_0.0~hg20250402.f315edc39f3d+dfsg-1_changelog</span></a></p><p>EDIT: Sorry, this version is not yet in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/backports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backports</span></a>. Will be soon™!</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prosody</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.ai/@lastquake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lastquake</span></a></span> do you also have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bot</span></a> as well?</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@veroandi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>veroandi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@bitsoffreedom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bitsoffreedom</span></a></span></p><p>I can't rule out, that there are anonymously run <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> servers, but is that really common?</p><p>Maybe the most popular server here in DE is <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>conversations</span></a>.im and it has all relevant data published, incl. a <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/PrivacyPolicy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PrivacyPolicy</span></a>: <a href="https://account.conversations.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">account.conversations.im/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Better not use a random server, but one recommended by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://indieweb.social/@joinjabber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>joinjabber</span></a></span> <a href="https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">joinjabber.org/docs/servers/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp_providers" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp_providers</span></a></span> <a href="https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">providers.xmpp.net/#providers</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Debacle<p>The situation of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/MSWindows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSWindows</span></a> is dissatisfactory. Some people do understandably prefer a proper application over the web browser. Then there are two half-baked options: </p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Dino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Dino</span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dino" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dino</span></a></span>: Unofficial, outdated build. No message reactions, no message replies, no audio widget for voice messages, AFAIK no MUC-MAM and no tray icon.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span>: Official build, even in the MS store, only slightly outdated, but no A/V calls, AFAIK no tray icon.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/freeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freeSoftware</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mast.lat/@autumn64" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>autumn64</span></a></span> </p><p>Una lástima que slidgnal (parte de <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/slidge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>slidge</span></a> por <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pouet.pas.la/@nicoco" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nicoco</span></a></span>) no esta funcionando por el momento 😞</p><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/slidge/slidgnal#user-content-slidgnal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/slidge/slidgnal#u</span><span class="invisible">ser-content-slidgnal</span></a></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neopaquita.es/@VaryIngweion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>VaryIngweion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://alvarobayon.com/@curiosabiologia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>curiosabiologia</span></a></span> </p><p>No tengo una solucion lista, pero puede ser que ya es posible con <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/libervia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>libervia</span></a> por <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Goffi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Goffi</span></a></span>.</p><p>Sino, debe ser posible con un poco de <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Python</span></a>, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/slixmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>slixmpp</span></a> y <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/aiohttp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiohttp</span></a>, verdad?</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a></p>
XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<p>The <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Newsletter for March 2025 is out!</p><p>Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>standards</span></a>!<br> <br><a href="https://xmpp.org/2025/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2025/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/2025/04/the-xmpp-news</span><span class="invisible">letter-march-2025/</span></a></p><p>Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp: </p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interoperability</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rtc</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a></p>
XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<p>The <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Newsletter for February 2025 is out!</p><p>Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>standards</span></a>!</p><p><a href="https://xmpp.org/2025/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2025/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/2025/03/the-xmpp-news</span><span class="invisible">letter-february-2025/</span></a></p><p>Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp: </p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interoperability</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rtc</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a></p>
mathieui<p>In 3 days, the jabber.fr wiki, a niche specialized wiki with a lot of outdated info and only one or two occasional contributors at the moment, has served more than 200 000 pages to shitty LLM bots.</p><p>Our PHP and mariadb processes are constantly hammered by them, and most of them are masquerading as normal traffic with browser user agents.</p><p>Is there a better solution than blocking off entire countries and cloud provider subnets at the moment?</p><p><a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/llm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>llm</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>debacle</span></a></span> </p><p>&gt;&gt; 1. I don't want to use Google Android or Apple iOS. There is no first class client for Linux/<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a>/<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mobian</span></a>.</p><p>Build one.</p><p>&gt;&gt; 2. I don't want to fuel the Amazon cloud of Jeff B., but prefer services in my home "country", the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a>.</p><p>Use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenStack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStack</span></a> or ask an EU provider to use it.</p><p>&gt;&gt; 3. I don't want to use a phone number for creating an account. E.g. it makes multi-account setups hard.</p><p>🔥 👍 </p><p>&gt;&gt; …grey beard, but I'll stay with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> 🙂</p><p>How about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a>? 😉 </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@jgoerzen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jgoerzen</span></a></span></p>
Mai :v_trans:<p>Just reading through the <a href="https://soc.saiyajin.space/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://soc.saiyajin.space/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6120.html#section-4.2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">core specification</a> bc I initially wanted to write an own jabber &lt;-&gt; matrix bridge (the ones that exist either dont work anymore, aren't maintained or didn't work with my usecase), and I seriously consider just scraping that idea.</p><p>It's even more awefull of an protocol than HTTP; no length-prefix of messages, malformed xml, and genneraly try-and-error mentality for most of the protocol.</p>
Data Artist<p>Does anybody know what happened to <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> instance jabber.de?</p><p>Status page <a href="https://www.jabber.de/?page_id=91" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">jabber.de/?page_id=91</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>